Mhlawumbe into abaningi abazibuze yona, ikakhulukazi lapho kuqala i-Linux akuyona kuphela iluphi uhlelo lokuphathwa kwephakeji olungcono kodwa futhi, yikuphi ukupakisha okungcono.
Angiqondile ukusho ukuthi yini engcono, kuphela ukuthola umehluko phakathi kwe .deb ne .rpm. Futhi ngikuthola kunzima impela, ngoba angikutholi ukungafani okuningi.
Kukhona namanye amaphakheji amancane, kanye nama-tarballs.
Kokubili i-database equkethe amaphakheji, igama, inguqulo, ukuncika, naku- .deb, amaphakheji anconyiwe. Ngaphambilini ku .rpm, bekunesici: lapho ubuyekeza isoftware, amafayela wokumisa ashiywa eqinile noma enziwe isipele, manje nawo asebenzisa i-.
Okuhlangenwe nakho kwami ukuthi ama-debs afuna ngokushesha ukuncika nokuthi i-.rpm, ngokuvamile, icela ukuncika okwengeziwe (okungenani, angikukhuthazi ukukwenza ungaxhunyiwe ku-inthanethi futhi ngifuna ukuncika ngakunye, kwenzeke kimi nge-openSUSE)
Kokubili kukuvumela ukuthi ubuyekeze uhlelo, useshe amaphakheji, ufake / ukhiphe, sesha ukuncika nokuningi. Benza impilo ibe lula kithina. Kepha ekujuleni uyini umehluko wabo wangempela?
Akukho okuphathelene. Bobabili basebenzela inhloso efanayo.
I-LSB iphakamisa i-RPM njengezinga elijwayelekile, kepha kuzoba nzima kakhulu ukuthi i-Debian, Ubuntu kanye ne-derivatives kushintshe kulolo hlelo lwephakeji.
Kunokwehluka okuningi endleleni yokwakhiwa kwawo, ngokwesibonelo, ku-rpm yonke imininingwane yokwakhiwa icacisiwe kufayela le-spec, ngenkathi ku-deb ihlukaniswe ikakhulu ngamafayela amabili, ukulawula kanye nemithetho.
Kuma-debs anefayela lokulawula ungakuthola ukubalwa kokuncika kuwe, ngenkathi ku-rpm kufanele ukubazi ngaphambi kwesikhathi bese ukubabeka ngesandla (lokhu kunzima futhi kuyingozi).
Ku-debs kunezindlela eziningana zokuzakha: ukwakha, ukwakha, njll. nge-rpm ngokwazi kwami kukhona eyodwa kuphela.
Ngemuva kwalokho inhloso yokugcina iyefana: dala iphakheji noma amaphakheji acindezelwe wohlelo ngemibhalo ethile lapho kuchazwa khona indlela yokubeka wonke amafayela ohlelo ohlelweni. Masingakhohlwa ukuthi kuyinjongo efanayo neyezifaki zeWindows ne-Mac, akusekho mfihlakalo.
Ku-Debian kunokuthambekela okukhulu kokuphindaphindeka kwezinhlelo, ngenkathi eMandriva (ngokwesibonelo) lokhu kuthambekela akukhulunywa kangako. Iqiniso ukuthi ukuphindaphindeka akudingekile kangako, nezono zikaDebian zokusebenzisa kakhulu.
Yikuphi okungcono? Akukho nobabili, ngoba konke kuncike kakhulu kukhwalithi yepakethe kunendlela yokupakisha.
Phendula ngokucaphuna
Ngicabanga ukuthi nakanjani kufanele kube khona okujwayelekile, kungaba i-rpm noma i-deb
Ngikhetha isikweletu, ngoba ngicabanga ukuthi sidume kakhulu futhi sisetshenzisiwe, kepha noma yini engaba yinhle, inqobo nje uma ihlukile futhi isendaweni yonke, ukwenza ukufakwa kwezinhlelo ezintsha kunoma iyiphi i-distro kube lula kubasebenzisi abasha (akunjalo, iningi lazo lizovela ewindini $) elizosetshenziselwa "ukufaka ngokuchofoza kabili kufayela le-***. exe".
Ngicabanga ukuthi kufanele kwakhiwe okusha okuhambisana nakho kokubili. Isibonelo, ifayili elilula elinolwazi oludlulisela kumphathi wephakeji futhi lilandela ama-oda, lihlanganisa noma lisesha kuseva noma endaweni lapho kusenziwa khona.
Ngiyavumelana no-Alxe. Kufanele kube nephrojekthi ejwayelekile ye-OpenSource yanoma yiluphi uhlelo noma ipulatifomu, kufaka phakathi abaphathi bephakeji abakhona.
Impumelelo ingaba kuleso sifaki esilungisa ngokuzenzakalela inkinga yokuncika kuwe. Okuncane okufanele sikhathazeke ngakho ukufakwa kohlelo, nokuningi ngomsebenzi esiwenzayo ngalolo hlelo.
Ngiyavuma ngokuphelele. Mayelana nephrojekthi ehambisana nakho kokubili, futhi, neqiniso.
Cristobal, ngiyabonga ngolwazi.
Uke wezwa nge-conary?
http://wiki.rpath.com/conary
Uma ngikutshela ukuthi angikaze ngisebenzise ama-debs noma ama-rpms? XD
Yebo, cishe eminyakeni emihlanu edlule ngisebenzise iRedHat ne-SuSE izinyanga ezimbalwa, kepha angizange ngixubanise namaphakheji. : D
Ngiyayisekela i-DEB ngaphezulu, yize ngingenalutho oluphikisana ne-RPM, mhlawumbe kungenxa yokuthi ngibe nokuhlangenwe nakho okungcono ngamadebhu kune-rpm.
Phendula ngokucaphuna
@zodman: Okwamanje awukho umbhalo kuleli khasi, ungasesha lesi sihloko sekhasi kwamanye amakhasi noma uhlele leli khasi.
@insengrin: futhi manje uhlanganisa yonke into? Hawu
Angicabangi kanjalo, angikaze ngisebenzise .rpm
Ngisebenzise uSuse iminyaka eminingi, futhi ngazama neMandrake, kepha ekugcineni ngagcina ku-Debian, futhi ungasho ukuthi, ngisebenzise womabili amafomethi (i-rpm ne-deb), abonakala eshesha ukufaka i-rpm, ngicabanga ukuthi kufanele kungenxa yokuthi uhlobo lokucindezelwa abalusebenzisayo, futhi ne-rpm inesici engingasitholi kuma-debs, futhi lokho kungukuthi bakhombisa usuku iphakethe elenziwa ngalo kanye negama le-package, ngaphambi kokuthi nabo behluke kulokho balethe uhlelo lokulawula ngamasiginesha futhi ngicabanga ukuthi ama-debs awenzi. Ngakolunye uhlangothi, lapho ngishintshela ku-Debian (ngiphinde ngasebenzisa i-Kubuntu) ngohlelo lwayo lokupakisha, ngikhohliwe ngezinkinga zokuncika, kepha angazi noma lokho kungenxa yohlelo lwephakeji noma ukusatshalaliswa uqobo, into ukuthi kimi akusekho ongakhetha kukho ku-Debian ...
PS: Kukhona uhlelo olubizwa nge-Alien http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_(aplicación), ekuvumela ukuthi uguqule amaphakheji usuke kwelinye ifomethi uye kwelinye, ngokuvamile kusebenza kahle kakhulu, yize kungadingeki ukuthi sikusebenzise.
Yebo ... lolu daba lubanzi, kepha ngithi okulandelayo, ngivela eDominican Republic futhi ngibamba iqhaza kwiFCLD (Fundacion Codigo Libre Dominicana) umongameli wayo u-Antonio Perpiñan, othathwa njengoyise wesoftware yamahhala eLatin America nguRichard UStallman uqobo lwakhe ... U-Antonio uthi ama-RPM azinzile ngokwengeziwe, yize kubonakala ukuthi ama-DEB enzelwe ukufaka okuningi, okungukuthi, usuku nosuku, yingakho (esho) ukuthi Ubuntu busebenzisa i-DEB, ngoba ifaka okuningi futhi ikhipha okuningi, kepha ku-REDHAT noma ku-CENTOS awukwenzi lokho ngaso sonke isikhathi, ngoba kuyizindawo zeseva… mathupha ngincamela ama-DEB, anginalutho oluphikisana nama-RPM kepha angihlali nomkhuba nokusebenza ... .
@Jonathan Kuyahlekisa okushoyo, ngoba iDebian GNU / Linux, ayakhelwanga kahle ukufaka / ukukhipha okuningi, futhi ibhekiswe kwimishini yokukhiqiza njengamaseva (ehlala ekhuluma ngohlobo lweStable).
Futhi iqiniso ukuthi angazi ukuthi yini enokuthi i-rpm izinze kakhudlwana. ?
Empeleni umehluko omkhulu phakathi kwe-rpm ne-deb ngu… cha, angazi nhlobo. Kepha ngifunde lukhulu ekuphawuleni kwawo wonke umuntu. Ngiyabonga.
hahaha uvumelana ngokuphelele noCesar
konke ukungaphatheki kahle engibe nakho nge-gnu / linux bekulokhu kune-rpm distros: p: p: p fedora kunginaka, kepha ngaso sonke isikhathi lapho ngiyizama ngilahlekelwa isifiso, okungenani ukukhishwa okungu-3 ...
Angikho sesimweni sokusho ukuthi omunye ungcono kunomunye… kepha ngibe nokuhlangenwe nakho okungcono nge .deb
Nginombono wokuthi ngifunde kwenye indawo mayelana "nokwehlukaniswa kwe-rpm", lapho kwathiwa ukuthuthukiswa kwamaphakeji we-rpm akuhambelani kangako, ngomqondo wobubanzi bokusabalalisa abangasebenza ngaphandle kwezinkinga, njenge ama-debs, asebenza cishe kuwo wonke ama-distros asuselwa ku-debian, futhi kulokho okuthunyelwe ama-devs akhuthazwa ukuthi avimbele into efanayo ukuthi ingaziphindi ngamaphakeji we-debian, kepha anginaso isiqiniseko salokho ... ngithole ukuthi ngikhumbula ngokungacaci ukubhala la mazwana: p
Okuthile engikuthanda kakhulu ngama-debs iqiniso lokuthi amakhosombe e-debian angaphezulu ... jikelele, ukusho okuncane, cishe wonke ama-distros atholakala kuma-debian share repos awo, esikhundleni salokho nge-rpm, kuze kufike lapho ngizamile khona, Indaba ehluke kakhulu: p
Enye indlela engiyithola ithakazelisa kakhulu yi-tarballear, njengakwi-arch, ukuthi lokho umphathi wephakeji akuphatha kungama-tarballs futhi kuphatha ukuncika, kangangoba umphathi wami wephakheji engiwuthandayo akasasenalaptic, kepha shaman: D, kepha hei, lapha sikhuluma nge-deb vs rpm futhi lokho akuhambelani ne-xD
Umbono wami othobekile ngawo, isihloko esithokozisayo, kungakuhle uma umuntu onolwazi oluningi esifundisa okuncane ngalesi sihloko esithandekayo!
Iqiniso ukuthi bengilokhu ngisebenzisa i-.deb, kepha kulokhu okushoyo akukho mehluko omkhulu ... ngisho umehluko obaluleke kakhulu owushilo kungenzeka ube nepolitiki enkulu lapho ubakha kunanoma yini enye.
Angicabangi ukuthi kudingekile ukuwafanisa, ikakhulukazi uma kukhona okungajwayelekile, yize i-alien nayo ingeniswa kubaphathi bephakheji abakhulu, ukuyenza ihambisane kakhulu, nezexwayiso ezihambisanayo.
Mayelana nokuqhathaniswa kokufaka i-.exe, angivumelani nalokhu okushiwo ngenhla. Ngiyakhumbula ukuthi lapho ngishintshela kuLinux enye yezinto engangijabulisa kakhulu kwaba lula ukufaka / ukukhipha / ukuvuselela ngokusebenzisa amakhosombe. Empeleni kuyinto engingayiqondi njengoba bengakopisanga vele kuMicrosoft. Akunakubakho okunye okubuhlungu embongolweni kunokubuyekeza emafasiteleni ... uhlelo ngomshayeli wohlelo ngumshayeli, lapho uhlelo ngalunye lungenayo inqubo yalo yokusebenzisa izinsizakusebenza ukubheka isibuyekezo.
@Seth Kwesinye isikhathi. Kepha cha, ngisebenzisa i-Arch Linux's .pkg.tar.gz. : D
Ngikhetha impela ukusebenza ngqo namaTarballs, iPortage rulez!
kahle, bengihlala ngisebenzisa ukwabiwa okususelwa ku-debian ngokunembile ngenxa yalolu daba, konke engikudingayo ngingakufaka (ikakhulukazi) nge-synaptic (noma i-apt-get), futhi ngikuthola kukhululeke kakhulu. Mayelana nalokho okushiwo yiqembu lapha, kubonakala sengathi akukho mehluko omkhulu, kepha ngicabanga ukuthi kufanele bakulinganise ngoba lokhu kungaletha ukudideka okuncane emhlabeni weLinux, uma iphakethe elilodwa lifana nelinye, kungani kukhona eziningi? ngokwesibonelo i-kernel_panic ibalula ukuthi umphathi wephakeji angaphatha ama-tarballs, ngakho-ke kungani kunamaphakeji amaningi kangaka? (Ngicabanga ukuthi ngosayizi wokulanda) kepha kuningi kakhulu, ikakhulukazi kufanele kube khona ama-tarball kanye nenketho yesibili emisiwe engenza impilo isebenziseke kakhulu konjiniyela, ama-webmasters nama-newbies. PS: Halala emphakathini webhulogi ngoba awekho ama-troll futhi ukuphawula cishe konke kuhle kakhulu.
Kuze kube manje futhi kususelwa ekuhlangenwe nakho kwami kokusebenzisa zombili lezi zinhlelo, ngincika kuma-DEB. Okungenani engikukhumbulayo ngohlelo lwe-RPM ukuthi ezikhathini ezingaphezu kwesisodwa ngibe nezinkinga zokuncika kuso. Ngakolunye uhlangothi, nge-DEB ngezikhathi ezingavamile kakhulu ngibe nezinkinga zokuncika okungagculiseki futhi bekuhlala kumaphakheji angafanele we-distro yami (Ubuntu).
Kubonakala kimi ukuthi lokhu ngumehluko kuphela engingawusho ngoba kwezinye izici ukuphatha okuphathelene kufana ncamashi.
Ngakolunye uhlangothi, uhlelo olusetshenziswa uGentoo, ukuhlanganisa ngqo zonke izinhlelo ezifakiwe, lubonakala luhle kimi uma kukhulunywa ngokugcina yonke isoftware oyifakayo enezici umuntu azidingayo ngqo futhi ibhekiswe ngokuphelele kuzimpawu yomshini wakho. evumela ukusebenza okukhulu kwemishini. Okubi ukuthi ngaso sonke isikhathi lapho kunesidingo sokufaka uhlelo, kufanele udlule kuyo yonke inqubo yokwenza okusebenzisekayo.
Akukude kakhulu neqiniso, noma kunjalo, ukuhlukahluka kuhle kakhulu futhi ...
Jabulela :)
Sawubona okuhle, bengifuna ukuphawula ukuthi le ndaba iyathakazelisa, ngizame zombili futhi inkinga nge-RPM ukuthi kungekudala noma nini ukucasuka kokuncika kuyaqala. I-Alien ayisebenzi ngaso sonke isikhathi ... kepha inkinga ebaluleke kakhulu engicabanga ukuthi eyemidlalo ... Kuyaziwa ukuthi wonke umuntu uzofuna imidlalo yomdabu, kepha ukuze ayikhulise kufanele kube khona iphakethe lendawo yonke elihambisana nawo wonke ama-distros. Ngicabanga ukuthi ngemuva kwalokho besingakhuluma ngemidlalo yamawindows ku-linux, ngoba simbalwa futhi ngaphezu kwakho konke sihlukene phakathi .... Ngaleso sizathu iRoma ibingakwazi nge-germania… ngoba bebengabumbene futhi balwa phakathi kwemindeni. Umqondo uyahamba kancane kodwa uyiqiniso. Sanibonani
Ngicabanga ukuthi umehluko wangempela ubhaliwe emlandweni, ukuvela kokusabalalisa kokuqala: i-redhat ne-debian; Ngenxa yalokhu "ukuncintisana kobungani" bahlala futhi bagxilile, ngokwami njengokwabiwa ngikholwa ukuthi lowo onqobayo ukhetho lwe-debian, impela ngoba ilula noma kunemibhalo eminingi noma kukhona inkulumo-ze entsha ama-package, ngicabanga ukuthi ngalokho kunokwakhiwa kwephakeji elihle futhi ekuhambeni kwesikhathi okulula ukwedlula konke yilokho okunamaphakeji amahle kakhulu, ngaphandle kwalokho kunamaphakeji amaningi akwi-debian nokuthi kokunye ukusatshalaliswa akunjalo, uma ufuna ukuya ku-distro nge-rpm kuyacasula kancane ukungena enkingeni yokuthi kufanele upake noma uhlanganise okuthile ozokwazi ukukusebenzisa,
Ngiyabingelela, futhi ngiyethemba ukuthi ngokuzayo kuzoba lula kimi ukusebenzisa i-rpm
Ngincika ngaku-.deb kepha uma ngabe bekukhona okujwayelekile ngingathanda ukuthi ama-tarball abe ngenxa yokulula kwawo nokushesha
zama i-slackware enye ye-linux distros yokuqala.
Alex, ngibhale lokhu okuthunyelwe, njengamanje ngisebenzisa i-slackware futhi ngiyayithanda kakhulu;)
kulo lonke lolu hlu lwamazwana, ukuphela kwento engisele nayo okulandelayo.
rpm = kuyinkinga
deb = ngokuvamile_simple
Okuhlangenwe nakho kwami:
Ngaqala eminyakeni edlule ngesigqoko esibomvu, ngasebenzisa i-rpm ngaphandle kokumangala okuningi, ngabe sengizama ukubamba iqhaza ngaphambi kokutholwa kwe-novell (fuchili!) Ngabe sengihlangana ne-debian ... kuze kube namuhla ngisacabanga ukuthi yasiza futhi yasiza izinto eziningi .
enye yazo kwakungamaphakheji wedeb.
yingakho kuze kube namuhla ngicabanga ukuthi yi-distro ehamba phambili. manje ngisebenzisa ubuntu. iqiniso ... linezinto zalo ezimbi, kepha uma uphatha, li-10 (noma i-9 +).
Anginayo inhloso enkulu yokushintshela kuslackware noma i-gentoo ...
kepha uma ngifuna ukuzama enye i-distro, ngizozama leyo enconywe ngu-stallman (UTUTO) onomphathi wephakheji nomhlanganisi okhulunywa kakhulu ngalezi pampas «ututo-get»
imikhonzo
Ngiqale ukusebenzisa Ubuntu kusuka enguqulweni 7.04 futhi ngajwayela i- .deb. Cishe unyaka nohhafu owedlule ngishintshele kuDebian futhi isipiliyoni besisihle impela, kepha ngizama ukuthola okuningi mayelana nokunambitheka kweLinux ngazama iFedora 14 manje iFedora 15. Ngiphelelwe yithemba lokuxazulula ukuncika, yikho okungibangela kulokhu isikhathi sokushiya i-Fedora ne -rr yayo futhi ubuyele ku-Debian naku-.deb yayo.
(Ngendlela engifaka ngayo lokhu kuphawula okuvela kuFedora 15 ngeGnome 3 ... ake sibone ukuthi iGnome 3 isebenza kanjani eDebian)
Bengihlala ngithanda ukwenza impilo yami ibe nzima, ngisebenzise iSlackware isikhathi eside futhi ngiyithande kakhulu kamuva lapho ngizama ukuvuselela nge-Ubuntu 12, ikhompyutha yami yonakala ngezidingo zalokhu futhi ne-BricsCAD engingaze ngiyenze isebenze ku-3D , manje ngisebenzisa i-PCLinuxOS kimi ngiyithanda kakhulu futhi kuze kube manje angikaze ngibe nezinkinga ngamaphakeji we-.RPM.Ngihlala ne-PCLinuxOS yami, ilula kakhulu, futhi iyashesha.
Uzakwethu Futhi ngisanda kusetha iyunithi yethu yokugeza umusi, into enkulu enginqume ngayo
ukuthenga isikhashana, izingane namalungu omndeni bayayithanda,
angikwazi ukuzibona ngibuyela emvuleni ejwayelekile futhi
Imithombo emihle kakhulu yesayithi yolwazi olukhulu lweshawa lapha
Ibhulogi emangalisayo! Ngabe ingqikithi yetimu yakho yenziwe noma uyilande kuyo
kwenye indawo? Idizayini efana neyakho enama-tweek ambalwa alula ingenza ibhulogi yami ikhanye.
Ngicela ungitshele ukuthi uyithathephi ingqikithi yakho. Ngiyabonga
Kokuhlangenwe nakho kwami ngibonile ukuhamba kancane ku .rpm kuqhathaniswa .deb yize engikuthandayo nge .rpm kuyinto eyodwa kuphela, ukuncika kuseshwa kukodwa futhi (okungenani ku-fedora) ngokucindezela "ithebhu" kuzoqedela konke ufuna ukubhala ku-ukuphela ngokuya ngendawo nomongo ozosetshenziswa, ngenxa yalesi sizathu ngidlulisele ku-fedora ukuthi uma kukhathaza kakhulu iqiniso lokuthi kunezikhathi lapho uthola khona uhlelo lokusebenza ku-.deb kuphela, isibonelo chrome ideskithophu ekude, ngombono wami izinga kufanele libe zombili ku-distro efanayo futhi uma kungenzeki, kungcono uye ku .rpm