Mhlawumbi into abantu abaninzi abazibuze yona, ngakumbi xa uqala kwiLinux ayisiyiyo kuphela yeyiphi inkqubo yolawulo lwephakheji ebhetele kodwa kwakhona, yeyiphi into yokupakisha ebhetele.
Andizenzi ngathi nditsho ukuba yeyiphi engcono, kuphela ukufumana umahluko phakathi kwe .deb kunye .rpm. Kwaye ngokuqinisekileyo ndikufumanisa kunzima, kuba andifumani manyani.
Kukho ezinye iiphakheji ezincinci, kunye neetarballs.
Zombini ziziko ledatha eliqukethe iiphakheji, igama, uguqulelo, ukuxhomekeka, kunye, kwi-.deb, iipakeji ezicetyiswayo. Ngaphambili kwi .rpm, bekukho inqaku: xa uhlaziya isoftware, iifayile zoqwalaselo zishiywe zinjalo okanye zixhaswe, ngoku nazo zisebenzisa .deb.
Amava am kukuba iidbs zikhangela ngokukhawuleza ukuxhomekeka kwaye .rpm, ngokubanzi, icela ukuxhomekeka ngakumbi (ubuncinci, andikukhuthazi ukuyenza ngaphandle kweintanethi kwaye ujonge ukuxhomekeka nganye nganye, yenzeke kum ivulekileSUSE)
Zombini ziyakuvumela ukuba uhlaziye inkqubo, khangela iipakeji, ukufaka / ukukhipha, ukukhangela ukuxhomekeka kunye nokunye. Benza ubomi bube lula kuthi. Kodwa nzulu yintoni umahluko wabo wokwenyani?
Akukho nanye efanelekileyo. Zombini zisebenza ngenjongo enye.
I-LSB iphakamisa i-RPM njengomgangatho, kodwa kuya kuba nzima kakhulu kwi-Debian, Ubuntu kunye nezinye izinto ezitshintshileyo kule nkqubo yephakheji.
Zininzi iiyantlukwano kwindlela yokwakha, umzekelo, kwi-rpm lonke ulwazi lokwakha luchaziwe kwifayile ye-spec, ngelixa kwi-deb yahlulwe ikakhulu kwiifayile ezimbini, ulawulo kunye nemigaqo.
Kwi-debs enefayile yolawulo unokufumana ukuxhomekeka ukuba kubalwe kuwe, ngelixa kwi-rpm kufuneka ubazi kwangaphambili kwaye uzibeke ngesandla (oku kunzima kwaye kuyingozi).
Kwiidebhu kukho iindlela ezininzi zokwenza zona: ukwakha, ukwakha, njl. nge-rpm ngokokwazi kwam ukuba inye kuphela.
Ke injongo yokugqibela iyafana: yenza iphakheji ecinezelweyo okanye iipakeji zenkqubo kunye nezikripthi ezithile apho indlela yokubeka zonke iifayile zenkqubo kwinkqubo icacisiwe. Masingalibali ukuba yeyona njongo inye ukufakela iiWindows kunye neMac, akusekho mfihlakalo.
Kwi-Debian kukho utyekelo olukhulu lokuphindaphindeka kweenkqubo, ngelixa eMandriva (umzekelo) olu tyekelo aluchazwanga kangako. Inyani yile yokuba ukuphindaphindeka akukho mfuneko kangako, kwaye izono zikaDebian zokuyisebenzisa kakhulu.
Yeyiphi engcono? Akunjalo kwaye zombini, kuba yonke into ixhomekeke ngakumbi kumgangatho wokupakisha kunakwindlela yokupakisha.
Phendula nge quote
Ndicinga ukuba ngokuqinisekileyo kuya kubakho umgangatho oqhelekileyo, nokuba yi-rpm okanye i-deb
Ndikhetha ityala, kuba ndicinga ukuba lelona lidumileyo kwaye lisetyenzisiweyo, kodwa nokuba yintoni eya kuba ilungile, ukuba iyodwa kwaye iyindalo iphela, ukwenza ufakelo lweenkqubo ezintsha nakweyiphi na distro kube lula kubasebenzisi abatsha (akukho ndlela, uninzi lwazo luya kuvela ngefestile $) ezakusetyenziselwa "ukufaka ngokucofa kabini kwifayile ye-***. exe".
Ndicinga ukuba entsha kufuneka yenziwe iyahambelana zombini. Umzekelo, ifayile elula enolwazi olugqithisela kumphathi wephakheji kwaye ilandela iiodolo, ukuqokelela okanye ukukhangela kwiseva okanye kwalapha kule nkqubo.
Ndiyavumelana noAlxe. Kuya kubakho iprojekthi ye-OpenSource esemgangathweni yayo nayiphi na inkqubo okanye iqonga, kubandakanya nabaphathi beephakeji ezikhoyo.
Impumelelo inokulala kwisifakeli esilula esisombulule ngokuzenzekelayo ingxaki yokuxhomekeka kuwe. Okuncinci esimele sikhathazeke kuko kukufakwa kwenkqubo, nangakumbi malunga nomsebenzi esiwenzayo ngale nkqubo.
Ndivuma ngokupheleleyo. Malunga neprojekthi ehambelana nazo zombini, nayo, inyani.
Cristobal, enkosi ngolwazi.
Ngaba ukhe weva nge-conary?
http://wiki.rpath.com/conary
Ukuba ndikuxelela ukuba andikaze ndisebenzise i-debs okanye i-rpms? XD
Ewe, malunga neminyaka emihlanu edlulileyo bendisebenzisa iRedHat kunye neSUSE kangangeenyanga ezimbalwa, kodwa andikhange ndiphazamise neephakeji. : D
Ndizixhasa ngakumbi ii-DEBs, nangona ndingenanto nxamnye ne-RPM, mhlawumbi kungenxa yokuba ndinamava angcono nge-debs kune-rpm.
Phendula nge quote
@zodman: Okwangoku akukho mbhalo kweli phepha, ungakhangela eli phepha isihloko kwamanye amaphepha okanye uhlele eli phepha.
@insengrin: kwaye ngoku uqokelela yonke into? Oo
Andicingi njalo, kunqabile ukuba ndisebenzise .rpm
Ndisebenzise uSuse iminyaka emininzi, kwaye ndazama neMandrake, kodwa ekugqibeleni ndaye ndagqibela nge-Debian, kwaye ungathi, ndisebenzise zombini iifom (i-rpm kunye ne-deb), ezibonakala ngathi ziyakhawuleza ukufaka i-rpm, ndicinga ukuba kufuneka Kungenxa yokuba uhlobo lokucinezelwa abalusebenzisayo, kwaye ii-rpm's zinento endingayifumaniyo kwiidebhu, kwaye oko kukuthi babonisa umhla owenziwe ngawo iphakheji kunye negama lephakheji, ngaphambi kokuba zahluke ukuba bazise ulawulo ngokusayina kwaye ndicinga ukuba iidebbs azenzi. Kwelinye icala, xa nditshintshela kwi-Debian (ndasebenzisa i-Kubuntu) ngenkqubo yokupakisha, ndilibale malunga neengxaki zokuxhomekeka, kodwa andazi ukuba oku kungenxa yenkqubo yephakheji okanye ulwabiwo ngokwalo, into ukuba kum akukho zinketho kwi-Debian kwakhona ...
I-PS: Kukho inkqubo ebizwa ngokuba nguMfokazi http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_(aplicación), ekuvumela ukuba uguqule iiphakheji ukusuka kwifomathi enye ukuya kwenye, isebenza kakuhle kakhulu, nangona kunqabile ukuba siyisebenzise.
Ewe ... isihloko sibanzi, kodwa nditsho oku kulandelayo, ndivela kwiRiphabhlikhi yaseDominican kwaye ndithatha inxaxheba kwiFCLD (Dominican Free Code Foundation) umongameli wayo nguAntonio Perpiñan, othathwa njengoyise wesoftware yasimahla eLatin America nguRichard UStallman ngokwakhe ... UAntonio uthi ii-RPMs zizinzile ngakumbi, nangona kubonakala ukuba ii-DEBs zenzelwe ukufakela okuninzi, Oko kukuthi, usuku nosuku, yiyo loo nto (utsho) kukuba Ubuntu busebenzisa i-DEB, kuba ifaka okuninzi kwaye ikhupha okuninzi, kodwa kwiREDHAT okanye kwiCENTOS awuyenzi ngalo lonke ixesha, kuba ziindawo zeseva… Ndizikhethela ngokobuqu ii-DEBs, andinanto ngokuchasene nee-RPMs kodwa ndihlala ngaphandle komkhwa nokusebenza ... .
@Jonathan Iyahlekisa into oyithethayo, kuba i-Debian GNU / Linux, ayenzelwanga ngqo ukufaka / ukukhipha okuninzi, kwaye ijolise kwizixhobo zemveliso ezinje ngeeseva (zihlala zithetha ngohlobo oluzinzileyo).
Kwaye inyani kukuba andazi ukuba yintoni enokuthi i-rpm izinzile ngakumbi. ?
Ngokwenyani umahluko omkhulu phakathi kwe-rpm kunye ne-deb ngu… hayi, andinalwazi. Kodwa ndifunde lukhulu kumagqabaza omntu wonke. Enkosi.
hahaha uvumelana ngokupheleleyo noCesar
Konke ukungahambi kakuhle endibe nako nge-gnu / linux bekune-rpm distros: p: p: p fedora indithathela ingqalelo, kodwa ngalo lonke ixesha ndizama ndilahlekelwa ngumnqweno, ubuncinci malunga nokukhutshwa okungu-3 ...
Andikho kwimeko yokuthi enye ibhetele kunenye… kodwa ndinamava angcono nge .deb
Ndinombono endiwufundileyo kwenye indawo malunga "nokuqhekeka kwe-rpm", apho kwathiwa ukuphuculwa kweephakeji ze-rpm akuhambelani ngokuchanekileyo, ngokoluhlu lwezabelo abanokuthi basebenze kuzo ngaphandle kweengxaki, njengee-debs, sebenza ngokusebenzayo kuzo zonke i-distros-based distros, kwaye kweso sithuba ii-devs zibongozwa ukuba zithintele into efanayo ukuba ingaziphindi ngeephakeji zedebian, kodwa andiqinisekanga ncam ngaloo nto ... ndiye ndakhumbula ngokungacacanga ndibhala la magqabantshintshi : p
Into endiyithandayo malunga ne-debs yinto yokuba i-debian repositories ininzi ... jikelele, ukuyibeka ngandlela-thile, phantse zonke i-distros ezivela kwi-debian share repos zabo, endaweni ye-rpm, ngokude ndizamile, ibali elihluke kakhulu: p
Enye into endiyifumanisa inomdla kakhulu yi-tarballear, njengakwi-arch, yokuba into ephathwa ngumphathi wephakheji zii-tarballs kwaye ilawula ukuxhomekeka, kangangokuba umphathi wam wepakeji endiwuthandayo akasasebenzi njenge-synaptic, kodwa shaman: D, kodwa hey, Apha sithetha nge-deb vs rpm kwaye ayifanelekanga i-xD
Uluvo lwam oluthobekileyo malunga nalo, isihloko esinomdla, kuya kuba kuhle ukuba umntu onolwazi ngakumbi angasifundisa kancinci malunga nesi sihloko sinomdla!
Inyani yile yokuba bendihlala ndisebenzisa .deb, kodwa kulento uyithethayo akukho mahluko ungako ... nditsho owona mehluko ubalulekileyo owuthethileyo ungangowopolitiko xa usakha kunayo nayiphi na into.
Andiqondi ukuba kunyanzelekile ukuba babekwe emgangathweni, ngakumbi ukuba kukho umntu wasemzini, nangona umfokazi enokuthi aziswe kubaphathi beephakeji eziphambili, ukwenzela ukuba uhambelane ngakumbi, kunye nezilumkiso ezihambelanayo, kunjalo.
Ngokumalunga nothelekiso lokufaka i .exe, andivumelani noko sele kutshiwo apha ngasentla. Ndiyakhumbula ukuba xa nditshintshela kwiLinux yenye yezinto eyandonwabisa kakhulu yayikukufaka / ukukhuphela / ukuhlaziya ngokugcina izinto. Ngapha koko yinto endingayiqondiyo nanjengoko bengakhuphelanga kwiMicrosoft. Akukho nto inokuba buhlungu kwi-esile kunokuhlaziya kwi-windows ... inkqubo yenkqubo yomqhubi ngumqhubi, xa inkqubo nganye ingenayo inkqubo yayo yokuchitha izixhobo ukujonga ukuba akukho hlaziyo.
@Seth Ngamanye amaxesha. Kodwa hayi, ndisebenzisa iArch Linux .pkg.tar.gz. : D
Ngokuqinisekileyo ndikhetha ukusebenza ngqo neeTarballs, iPortage rulez!
Kulungile, bendihlala ndisebenzisa ulwabiwo olusekwe kwi-debian ngokuchanekileyo ngenxa yalo mba, yonke into endiyifunayo ndingayifaka (ubukhulu becala) nge-synaptic (okanye i-apt-get), kwaye ndiyifumana kamnandi. Ngokubhekisele kwinto ethi ibhendi apha, kubonakala ngathi akukho mahluko mkhulu, kodwa ndicinga ukuba mabayimise mgangatho kuba oku kungazisa ukudideka okuncinci kwilizwe leLinux, ukuba iphakheji enye inento efanayo nenye, kutheni kunjalo ezininzi? umzekelo i-kernel_panic ikhankanya ukuba umphathi wephakheji unakho ukuphatha iitarballs, kutheni le nto kukho iiphakheji ezininzi kangaka? (Ndicinga ngenxa yesayizi yokukhuphela) kodwa zininzi kakhulu, ubukhulu becala kufuneka kubekho iitarballs kunye nokhetho lwesibini olusemgangathweni oluya kwenza ubomi bube lula ngakumbi kubaphuhlisi, i-webmasters kunye neewbies. I-PS: Siyavuyisana nabantu base-blog kuba akukho troll kwaye iikhomenti ziphantse zilunge kakhulu.
Ukuza kuthi ga ngoku kwaye kusekwe kumava obuqu okusebenzisa zombini ezi nkqubo, ndoyame kwii-DEBs. Ubuncinci into endiyikhumbulayo ngenkqubo ye-RPM kukuba ngaphezulu kwesihlandlo esinye bendinengxaki zokuxhomekeka kuyo. Kwelinye icala, nge-DEB ngezihlandlo ezinqabileyo kakhulu ndiye ndaneengxaki zokungoneliseki kwaye bendihlala ndikwiiphakheji ezingekho sesikweni se-distro yam (Ubuntu).
Kubonakala kum ukuba lo ngumahluko kuphela endinokuthi kuba ukusukela kwezinye izinto ukuphathwa kufana ngokufanayo.
Kwelinye icala, inkqubo esetyenziswa nguGentoo, eqokelela ngokuthe ngqo zonke iinkqubo ezifakiweyo, ibonakala ifanelekile kum xa kufikwa ekugcineni isoftware oyifakayo eneempawu ezifunwa ngokukodwa kwaye zilungiselelwe ngokufanelekileyo iimpawu zakho. umatshini, ovumela ukusebenza okuphezulu kwezixhobo. Icala elisezantsi lelokuba nanini na xa kufuneka ukufakela inkqubo, kuya kufuneka uyigqibe yonke inkqubo yokudala enokufezekiswa.
Akukho kude kakhulu kwinyani, nangona kunjalo, iindidi zilungile kakhulu ...
Masinwabe :)
Molo ulungile, bendifuna ukuphawula ukuba isifundo sinomdla, ndizamile zombini kwaye ingxaki nge-RPM kukuba kungekudala okanye kamva kuyacaphukisa ukuxhomekeka. Alien ayisoloko isebenza ... kodwa owona mbandela ubalulekileyo ndicinga ukuba yeyemidlalo ... Kuyaziwa ukuba wonke umntu uya kufuna imidlalo yemveli, kodwa ukuze uyiqinise kufanele ukuba kubekho iphakheji yendalo iphela ehambelana nazo zonke ii-distros. Ndicinga ukuba emva koko singathetha ngeewindows imidlalo kwi-linux, kuba simbalwa kwaye ngaphezulu kwako konke sahlulelene .... Ngenxa yeso sizathu iRoma ibinakho neJamani ... Umbono uyaphaphatheka kancinci kodwa uyinyani. Ukubulisa
Ndicinga ukuba umahluko wokwenyani ubhaliwe kwimbali, ukubonakala kwezabelo zokuqala: redhat kunye debian; Ngenxa yolu "khuphiswano lobuhlobo" bahlala kwaye bazinza nzulu, ngokobuqu njengokwabiwa ndicinga ukuba lowo uphumeleleyo lukhetho lwe-debian, ngokuchanekileyo kuba ilula okanye kukho amaxwebhu amaninzi okanye kukho ubuxoki obuninzi kwiipakethe ezintsha , Ndicinga ukuba ngale nto ipakethe elungileyo iyenziwa kwaye ekuhambeni kwexesha eyona nto kulula ukuyithatha yeyona inezona zipakethi zibalaseleyo, ngaphandle kokuba kukho iipakeji ezininzi ezikwi-debian kwaye kolunye usasazo alukho, ke ukuba uyafuna yiya kwi-distro ene-rpm iyacaphukisa into yokungena kwingxaki yokuba kufuneka upakishe okanye uqokelele into ukuze ukwazi ukuyisebenzisa,
Ndiyabulisa, kwaye ndiyathemba ukuba kwixa elizayo kuya kuba lula ukuba ndisebenzise i-rpm
Ndincike kwi .deb kodwa ukuba bekukho umgangatho ndingathanda ukuba iitarballs zibekho ngenxa yokulula kwazo nokukhawuleza
zama i-slackware enye ye-linux distros yokuqala.
UAlex, ndibhale le post, okwangoku ndisebenzisa i-slackware kwaye ndiyayithanda kakhulu;)
Lonke olu luhlu lwamagqabantshintshi, ekuphela kwento endishiyekileyo yile ilandelayo.
rpm = yingxaki
deb = ngokubanzi_simple
Amava am obuqu:
Ndiqale kwiminyaka eyadlulayo ngomnqwazi obomvu, bendisebenzisa i-rpm ngaphandle kokumangaliswa okuninzi, emva koko ndizamile ukusebenzisa i-suse ngaphambi kokufunyanwa kwe-novell (fuchili!) Emva koko ndadibana ne-debian ... ukuza kuthi ga ngoku ndicinga ukuba indincedile kwaye yandinceda izinto.
Enye yazo yayiziphakheji zetyala.
Kungenxa yoko le mini ndicinga ukuba yeyona distro ibalaseleyo. Ngoku ndisebenzisa ubuntu. inyani ... inezinto zayo ezimbi, kodwa ukuba uyalawula, zili-10 (okanye 9+).
Andinazinjongo zininzi zokutshintshela kwislackware okanye i-gentoo ...
kodwa ukuba bendifuna ukuzama enye i-distro, ndingazama leyo icetyiswe ngu-stallman (UTUTO) onomphathi wephakheji kunye nomhlanganisi othetha kakhulu ngezi pampas «ututo-get»
mbuliso
Ndiqale ukusebenzisa Ubuntu ukusuka kuhlobo 7.04 kwaye ndaye ndaqhelana ne .deb. Malunga nonyaka onesiqingatha eyadlulayo ndatshintshela kuDebian kwaye amava ayelungile, kodwa ndizama ukufumanisa ngakumbi malunga neencasa zeLinux ndizamile uFedora 14 kwaye ngoku nguFedora 15. Ndizimisele ukusombulula ukuxhomekeka, yiyo le nto indibangela Ngeli xesha ukushiya iFedora kunye ne-.rpm yayo kunye nokubuyela kwi-Debian nakwifayile yayo.
(Ngale ndlela ndenza olu luvo luvela kuFedora 15 ngeGnome 3 ... masibone ukuba iGnome 3 isebenza njani eDebian)
Ndihlala ndithanda ukubenza nzima ubomi bam, bendisebenzisa iSlackware ixesha elide kwaye bendiyithanda kakhulu kamva xa ndizama ukuvuselela ngo-Ubuntu 12 ikhompyuter yam ishiywe ixutywe neemfuno zale BricsCAD andinakuze ndiyenze isebenze kwi-3D , ngoku ndisebenzisa i-PCLinuxOS kum ndiyithanda kakhulu kwaye ukuza kuthi ga ngoku khange ndibenangxaki ngeephakeji zeRPM, ndihlala nePCLinuxOS yam, ilungile kwaye iyakhawuleza.
Iqabane lam Kwaye kutshanje ndibeke iyunithi yethu yeshawa yomphunga, eyona nto ndiyigqibileyo
ukuthenga ixesha elithile, abantwana kunye namalungu osapho bayayithanda,
andiziboni ndibuyela kwimvula eqhelekileyo kwakhona
Indawo elungileyo kakhulu yolwazi lomoya weshawa apha
Ibhlog emangalisayo Ngaba umxholo wakho wenziwe ngokwesiko okanye ngaba ukhuphele kuwo
kwenye indawo? Uyilo olufana nolwakho kunye nee-tweeks ezimbalwa ezilula luya kuyenza ibhlog yam ibenge.
Nceda undazise ukuba uwufumene phi umxholo wakho. Enkosi
Kumava am ndiye ndaqaphela kancinci kancinci ngo .rpm xa kuthelekiswa .deb nangona into endiyithandayo nge .rpm inye kuphela into, ukuxhomekeka kukhangelwa kukodwa kwaye (ubuncinci kwi-fedora) ukucofa "ithebhu" kuya kugqibezela yonke into ufuna ukubhala kwisiphelo sendlela ngokuxhomekeke kwindawo kunye nomxholo oza kuwusebenzisa, ngenxa yeso sizathu nditshintshele kwi-fedora, ethi ukuba iyakhathaza into yokuba kukho amaxesha apho ufumana khona usetyenziso kwi-.deb, umzekelo chrome idesktop ekude, ngokoluvo lwam umgangatho kufuneka ube zombini kwi-distro efanayo kwaye ukuba akunakwenzeka, kungcono uye kwi