Mai kirkirar AppImage yayi kira ga kauracewa Wayland

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Saminu Bitrus (mahaliccin tsarin kunshin AppImage mai zaman kansa) kwanan nan Na yi aikawa akan GitHub a cikin abin da asali da ake kira ga kauracewa Wayland "Tunda ya karya komai."

Daya daga cikin mahimman matsalolin, a ra'ayinsa, shine tare da Wayland aikace-aikace da yawa sun lalace kuma masu haɓaka Wayland suna fatan cewa marubutan aikace-aikacen zasu gyara komai da kansu.

A cikin sakon sakon raba na gaba

“Wayland ba ta gyara kowace matsala da nake da ita, amma tana karya kusan dukkan aikace-aikacen da nake buƙata. Kuma ba za su iya aiki ba saboda mutanen Wayland kamar suna damuwa da GNOME ne kawai kuma suna tofa albarkacin bakinsu kan kowa. " KADA KA GINA WAYLAND! Kada ku yarda Wayland ta lalata komai don wasu ba su da matsala daga baya. Ko inganta ƙarin takamaiman kayan haɗin Red Hat / GNOME (glib, Portals, Pipewire) kamar yadda ake buƙata masu dogaro! «

A cikin gidan, raba wasu daga cikin misalai masu zuwa, akan nau'ikan aikace-aikacen da suka "karya tare da Wayland":

Wayland ta fasa ayyukan rikodin allo

  • Wayland baya tallafawa aikace-aikacen rikodin allo. Alal misali:
    Mai rikodin SimpleScreen: marubucin ba zai goyi bayan Wayland ba har sai an sami daidaitaccen keɓaɓɓu wannan ba shi da alaƙa da GNOME.  Karya tun Janairu 24, 2016, babu ƙuduri ("Ina ɗauka suna amfani da daidaitaccen tsarin GNOME don wannan")
  • OBS nazarin. A lokaci guda, akwai takamaiman GNOME plugin wanda zai baka damar amfani OBS Studio tare da Wayland, amma kawai lokacin amfani da gnome-shell. Ee Yayi wani mai ba da gudummawa na OBS Studio yana lura cewa X11 Screenshot API yana kusa da mafi munin yiwuwar, Yanayin hotunan hoto misali ne mai kyau na yadda (GNOME) Wayland ta sake komawa ga wani abu mai wahalar amfani da shi fiye da X11 kuma wataƙila ta hanyar fasaha ba ta kai matsayin hakan ba.
    Karya tun aƙalla Maris 7, 2020. ("Wayland ba ta da tallafi a wannan lokacin", "Babu gaske babu wani abu da za a iya canza shi cikin sauƙi. Wayland ba ta samar da Capture API")
  • https://github.com/mhsabbagh/green-recorder
  • https://github.com/vkohaupt/vokoscreenNG/issues/51 Rtun a kalla 7 Mar 2020 ( "Yanzu na yanke shawara cewa ba za a sami goyon bayan Wayland ba a wannan lokacin, babu wani kasafin kudi don wannan, za mu ga yadda yake a cikin shekara daya ko biyu ..") - Wannan shine babbar matsala. Wayland ta karya komai sannan kuma tayi fatan wasu zasu gyara matsalolin da ya haifar da kansu.

Wayland ta fasa ayyukan raba allo

  • Wayland baya tallafawa aikace-aikacen raba allo. Misali, jitsi-hadu. A lokaci guda, misali, a cikin Fedora 32 yana yiwuwa a raba allon a zaman wayland (ta amfani da xdg-desktop-portal, wanda ke amfani da Pipewire).
  • https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/issues/2350  karya tun Janairu 3, 2018
  • https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet/issues/6389 karye tun Janairu 24, 2016 ("Rufewa saboda babu abin da za mu iya yi daga bangaren Jitsi Meet") . Wayland ta karya abubuwa kuma ta bar masu haɓaka app marasa ƙarfi kuma ba sa iya gyara aibin, koda sun so.
  • https://github.com/flathub/us.zoom.Zoom/issues/22 Zuƙowa karye tun a kalla Janairu 4, 2019. ("Ba za a iya fara rabawa ba, kawai muna tallafawa gefen ƙasa a kan GNOME tare da Ubuntu (17, 18), Fedora (25-29), Debian 9, openSUSE Leap 15, Arch Linux"). Babu abin da aka sani game da wanda ba GNOME ba!

Ban da shi Har ila yau, ya ambaci cewa:

  • Wayland bai dace da menu na GNOME na duniya ba.
  • Wayland bai dace da menu na duniya na kayan aikin dandamali na KDE ba.
  • Wayland baya goyan bayan menu na duniya na Qt.
  • Wayland bai dace da kayan aikin AppImage da aka bayar ba tare da keɓaɓɓiyar kayan aikin Qt ba.

Finalmente marubucin yunƙurin zai yi farin cikin ƙara wasu misalan da ke akwai a jerin sa idan mutane da yawa suka shiga shirin har ma da tabbatar da cewa Wayland ba za ta iya ci gaba ba.

Abin da yake gaskiya kuma mafi yawancin al'ummomin Linux sun sani, shine Wayland har yanzu tana da matsaloli da yawa tare da aikace-aikacen rikodin allo (rikodin allo), haka nan tare da aikace-aikacen samun damar nesa, tunda har yanzu akwai sauran matsaloli da yawa don warwarewa tare da sarrafa keyboard da linzamin kwamfuta (wata tsohuwar matsala ce kuma ni kaina ban sani ba ko an riga an yi aiki don warwarewa, tunda kamar yadda na ambata matsala ce da ta daɗe tana faruwa).

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  1.   FAMMMG m
    sa 3 shekaru

    Wayland ta lalace tare da komai, Xorg ya mutu kuma an gyara shi fiye da komai.
    Wannan yanayin yana da rikitarwa ga Linux.

    Amsa wa FAMMMG
  2.   Miguel Rodriguez m
    sa 3 shekaru

    Kai, na gode don ka ba ni dariya. Ban sani ba cewa mahaliccin Appimage snowflake ne.

    Amsa wa Miguel Rodríguez
  3.   Mai kare Walyland m
    sa 3 shekaru

    Matsalar tsaro kuma wannan shine dalilin da ya sa aka haifi Wayland. X.Org ya mutu saboda rashin kulawa. Mafi kyawun abu shine samar da faci don amfani da Wayland ta hanyar tambayar mai amfani izini don samun damar albarkatun.

    A gefe guda, AppImage ba lallai ba ne, a zamanin yau akwai masu tsinkaye don deb, rpm da sauransu. Tsaron abin da aka shigar yana da matsala. Kunshin da sanya hannu ta rarraba. Wata hanya ce ta fahimtar abubuwa, inda tsaro ke da mahimmanci game da abin da zaku girka. AppImage yana haifar da kwafi da ƙarin amfani da ƙwaƙwalwar ajiya. Yaya kauracewa AppImage zai ji game da waɗannan dalilan?

    Amsa ga Mai kare Walyland
  4.   Adrian m
    sa 3 shekaru

    yi amfani da mir daga ubuntu…. ko kuma jira al'umma basu bada goyon baya ba abun kunya

    Amsa wa adrian