Choosing a distribution among the many options out there is an arduous task, according to what you do or your needs you may be interested in one or the other. Numerous posts have already been made about the best distributions, but in this case what we will do is analyze two heavyweights of the Linux world and We will put Debian and its successful derivative Ubuntu face to face.
As everybody know, Ubuntu is a Debian-based distribution, but it is not an exact copy by any means and there are great similarities but also great differences between the two. Here we compare Debian vs Ubuntu and we discover these details in a simple way so that you can choose one or the other. Will the son have surpassed the father or on the contrary does Debian have a lot to say?
Debian and Ubuntu: both mount mount both
As in any battle, the first thing is to present the opponents. Although they need little presentation in the case of two Linux distributions as famous as these, it is always good to place ourselves for those newcomers to this world or readers who come from other platforms.
The Debian project has become a macro project one of the largest seen in the Linux world. It has tons of developers and its vast community has created a lot of documentation available to help you. In addition, its releases are characterized by being very stable and having a fairly high performance, making it the preferred distribution for many and the basis of many distributions.
Despite being free, it competes with others such as Red Hat and SuSE for its fabulous qualities, also the DEB packages rival the RPM as if the Linux world were divided into two great camps. Y We owe all of this to Ian Murdock, who started the project in 1993. After studying at Purdue University, he would write the Debian manifesto that he would use as the basis of the distro and which would be joined by legions of hackers for its development.
The name of IAN and that of his then girlfriend DEBorah, give name to the distribution. After a few years, in 1996, Bruce Perens would replace Ian Murdock as project leader. But Bruce would also retire in 1998 to make way for another leader, but the project is oblivious to these changes, continuing to grow like a snowball.
On the other side of the ring we have Ubuntu, a distribution developed by Canonical and based on Debian. In fact, Ubuntu is one of about 100 distributions based on Debian, but in turn, Ubuntu has a third generation with almost another hundred distros based on it and so on until creating a large family of distros.
Canonical is a British company created by South African Mark Shuttleworth and with an approach that may remind something of Apple's philosophy, creating software designed to be easy to use (the main idea was to make the monstrous Debian an operating system for the masses), beautiful and with a design that has wanted to stand out from the crowd. to other distros. On the other hand, Ubuntu does not look out so much for freedom, but for usability, including non-free software. It is also a relatively new distro compared to Debian, since the first version appeared in 2004.
Now that we know all the details of each of the distributions, let's go with the comparison of Debian vs. Ubuntu.
Debian vs Ubuntu which is better?
If we answer this question in a simple way, we would be lying and those who say that Debian is better are just as right as those who say that Ubuntu is. Both distributions are very good and feed back on the many advances they make. Therefore, I believe that Debian is necessary for Canonical and Canonical's work is also necessary for the Debian community.
What we can do is list a series of advantages and disadvantages of each one so that you have a clearer idea ...
Reasons to choose Debian
- Debian is available for more architecturessuch as PowerPC, x86 (both 32-bit and 64-bit), ARM, SPARC, MIPS, PA-RISC, 68k, S390, System Z, IA-64, etc. Therefore, it can be run on more computers than Ubuntu, which focuses more on home computers or x86 servers.
- Installation with more customization options.
- Debian brings GNOME by defaultAlthough it can work with a multitude of different desktop environments, in this sense it is quite balanced with Ubuntu.
- Debian allows you to have hard and stable packages like a rock in older versions or be more at the forefront of technology with the latest functionalities at the cost of greater instability.
- Generally is safer, highly customizable and has higher performance.
- Although both are free, Debian fights for software freedoms, while in Ubuntu packages with proprietary licenses are integrated.
- Most recommended for "old dogs" who have advanced knowledge and they have been in this world longer.
- In Debian each pack has a maintainer (maintainer) assigned, while in Ubuntu it is not, being somewhat more chaotic in some cases.
- La error correction using Debbugs mailing lists is less fuzzy than Ubuntu's Launchpad.
- utnubu (Ubuntu backwards) is a project that allows you to "revert" the changes made from Debian to obtain Ubuntu and thus have some packages available for Ubuntu that would not be for Debian.
Reasons to choose Ubuntu
- Generally, Ubuntu software packages are more up-to-date than Debian. Ubuntu's shorter release and development times mean it has this advantage, although you can always choose to update it yourself.
- Much easier and more intuitive installer. It is also easier to use, so it is better for newbies or people without much knowledge ...
- There are numerous flavors with different desktops, as with Debian, it is not only limited to a desktop environment, which by default is Unity on Ubuntu.
- At the cost of greater usability and better hardware support, the performance and flexibility have been relaxed a bit.
- Developers generally have great interest in developing software for this distro for its popularity with the community.
- Convergence Canonical is pursuing so much is a great asset for the future.
- Long term stability. Ubuntu offers extended support in its LTS versions so that they can continue to be maintained and updated for a long period of time, while Debian, although its releases usually take time, only releases Unstable (development), Test (for test) and Stable versions. . In addition, the releases of new versions of Ubuntu are made every 6 months, while those of Debian are more sporadic.
- All the new technologies. They arrive earlier to Ubuntu due to the collaborations of Canonical and other companies.
- In Ubuntu we have more package types or groups based on status and license, since in Debian they are limited to cataloging them as: main, contrib and non-free. Ubuntu has: main, restricted, universe and multiverse, the latter two being "unofficial" groups of packages.
- Best Home Entertainment Platform, multimedia content and video games are best received in Ubuntu due to their popularity. An example of this is the numerous Steam titles for Ubuntu and the Steam Controller game controller support.
Conclution? The truth is that the conclusion to this comparison of Debian vs Ubuntu must be put by you. Depending on your needs, you can choose one or the other. In general, if you are going to mount a server or want the equipment to program, your option is Debian. But if you want ease, use more generic or for video games, and you need compatibility comparable to Mac OS X or Windows, choose Ubuntu.
Do not forget to comment, you'll be welcome…
Hello Isaac
thanks, great post, I started around 20 years ago with linux, what times, then I had to leave it now my circumstances allow me to return, in fact canonical and ubuntu did not exist if they should of course, read hat, suse. Great contribution, happy day. I am with Ubuntu 15.10, spectacular.
juanma
According to the vote count and by unanimous decision and by beating, the winner has been: PAMPAMPAMPAMPAM
DEBIAN LINUX!
The debian installer is quite easy to use, it has nothing to envy Ubiquity.
Now you should still detail that it is Debian Stable that you compare in most points, because if you use testing or SID you have packages almost up to date (in fact Ubuntu takes the testing / sid branch). The funniest thing they should have even on SID is more stable than "stable" Ubuntu.
Debian releases are every two years and for example Jessie has the same long support, the other versions are not "released" but are available from the first moment, to follow the development of the next stable.
The packages if you check in debian are all those that include ubuntu and even more, that Ubuntu allows the ppa, if possible, but they are actually almost marginal in quantity.
«Best home entertainment platform, multimedia content and video games are best received in Ubuntu due to its popularity. An example of this are the many Steam titles for Ubuntu », that I know the games are for Steam, steam is in all linux distros to be installed and I remind you that Steam OS is based on Debian.
Very prejudiced to say "this distro is for ..." today GNU / Linux is at a very standardized Use level. I am not a programmer and I use debian and I do not miss anything that Ubuntu can offer "which is intended for more domestic use" according to you.
The only thing that could prove you right is the hardware support.
You are right Fabian, I have been using Debian and Steam games without any problems for a long time, and they are going incredibly well. Since then I have archived a 160GB disk that I kept with XP to play. In general I play CS-GO.
And finally, at point 3 I would not have put it.
Regards,
I believe that you have thrown the topics to grief, neither Debian is more stable than Ubuntu and much less has better performance, everything is in the version you install and how you install it, Ubuntu can be installed from the minimal version and you choose what you want to install and what not, if you are an expert and you like to configure and have control over everything, compile your distro and you will have the fastest for your machine.
In my experience Ubuntu is considerably faster than Debian in similar configurations and as stable as the above in LTS versions, not to mention ease and recognition of hardware where there is no color.
Crucify me if you want, but Ubuntu is what Debian should have been and never was.
Crucify me if you want, but Ubuntu is what Debian should have been and never was….
Without further ado, in my opinion, Ubuntu makes sure that everything is more "simple and beautiful", wiping out the new software, chasing the fucking habit of Windows and Mac, that is, massify, and we return to the same thing again . Where are the freedoms imposed by the GNU? Boy, by God, debian packages spend months being tested and bug-free; Ubuntu takes Mansalva out, I don't want to see Ubuntu Millenium Edition someday; but that's what they're aiming for.
Let's see guys I did this little experiment to get an idea, basically I decided to Install Debian and Ubuntu on a low-resource laptop, a very weak AMD such as the AMD E1-2100 and 4GB of RAM.
Well, I launched everything through the same ravine of Oracle Virtual Box and with a slow internet connection of 1mb.
1. Installation time, in UBUNTU, mmm it took forever, 2.5 hours, besides that the 16.10 distro weighs 1.5gb in its 32-bit desktop version (I went for or short with the architectures) In Debian with the Jessie 8.6 x86 of a comfortable 650 mb, it took 1 hour to install. I don't like OS that install a lot of packages that you will never use.
2. Performance, Ubuntu did not lift due to the low resources of the machine, it was impossible, slow to work in Ubuntu, a Chinese torture, Debian on the other hand with the LXDE desktop, it is not that it was very fluid, but nevertheless I could work and at the same time I a habit to its null fluency. Debian undoubtedly consumes fewer resources or rather knows how to use resources better than its offspring.
3. Drivers, both distros I recognized the wireless card which is always the main concern in these cases.
Well, for those who want to try or make something fast in Linux, use debian if you are short of time and twine to buy a good iron. Now if you continuously live missing interfaces like the one in beautiful windows and you boast of updating the latest kernel without blinking and you have a minimum 3nd core-i2 machine, throw balls at it with UBUNTU, now, I don't know why strange I try versions and versions of the offshoots of debian, and I always end up going back to DEBIAN, I don't know why.
I do not think they are any topic, Sparkylinux based on Debian Testing or Robolinux based on Debian 8.2 gives a thousand returns in performance to any version of Ubuntu, I have it more than proven.
I'm not a Linux expert but, I have both so on the pc and 3 Ubuntu derivatives plus Fedora and I have a lot of fun having to decide which one to boot every time I turn on the pc.
The real thing is, I get along with all six and their differences.
Miguel
Excellent example. SparkyLinux is super fluid and comprehensive. Antix and Bunsenlabs are also very fast.
Superb article.
What I can comment on is that Ubuntu gave the necessary impulse to Linux at the time (since the 90s I tried - unsuccessfully - to install any Linux, until I had my first success with Ubuntu years ago), for the majority of the population it is tailor-made in its "desktop" version, despite everything they say on "technical issues".
Now if what you want is to be serious, then Debian for the server and that regardless of SystemD (we rarely need to restart a server and we can hope that init starts -and it is easier to administer-)
Bottom line: Ubuntu for end users and Debian for servers, the other variants exist to satisfy taste, not necessity.
I will only tell you that if, when I started dealing with Linux, I had faced Debian instead of Ubuntu, maybe today I was not a Linux user, nor did I want to explain to people the advantages it offers, nor would I consider try other distros or even switch to another, etc ...
Surely Ubuntu is not the best, nor the one that performs the most, nor the one that does a specific task much better than the others, but it is the distro that has made it easy for many of us without significantly sacrificing security, quality, or performance. performance… And it sure isn't the worst at all. It does everything reasonably well and is available to almost anyone.
That is precisely why I think it is one of the best that can be found, if we speak from the point of view of a user who wants a system with guarantees and within reach to use his PC in the best possible way.
And I say this, of course, recognizing the merit, value, performance, etc., of Debian. But I keep thinking that if it weren't for Ubuntu and what it has allowed me to learn, I might not even be able to assess what Debian stands for.
I would like to know where you got the image from with the comparative graphs between distros, because honestly the data I don't know where it comes from. Specifically in Arch, I do not understand the hardware score because it has the same support or more in terms of drivers than the other distros, in docs if it refers to documentation I suppose I do not understand why it puts that score since the Arch wiki is the best documentation Of all the distros unquestionably in customization it should have a maximum score or at least better than Debian because the user installs and configures absolutely everything. And finally, although debatable, in my opinion better performance than Debian since it has more permissiveness in terms of drivers and is much lighter.
PS: I have nothing against debian but it is the one I know best after Arch hehe.
A few months ago I started with Linux, in fact I have right now I use Debian for the desktop and Ubuntu for the laptop and I have to admit how good they are despite their differences. Maybe I can't fully see their differences because I'm inexperienced but I can see better stability in Debian.
But when it comes to usability Ubuntu takes the lead, and today the Linux community seems to be divided between Ubuntu and the others, I try to find something specific for Debian for example and the result is almost everything about the distro from Canonical, this may be somewhat detrimental in the future.
However, I am comfortable with them and I am not going to change.
I have been a linux user for a year and a half. I started with Lubuntu, from there I went to Mint and finally to Debian 7. I installed Debian 8 and from here they do not move me ... Both on my work laptop and mine I have Debian and on the desktop I have Mint. The stability is worth it, and if you needed to handle a windows program then the virtual machine. Long live Linux, long live free software!
They should be more robust, more geared towards more knowledgeable professionals. Ubuntu is more for kids.
What nonsense you blurted out ... the nonsense of the day, you have been with the same story for years, with the same excuse ... there is absolutely nothing you can do in debian and not in ubuntu, on the contrary if there is something you can do in ubuntu and not in debian ... install it and be able to navigate, for example, something as basic as surfing the Internet, for which anyone will use their computer should not be able to not without first looking for the driver and compiling it ... the graph more of the same, search and compile it, Debian's appearance is similar to a PC from the 90s .... In short, if you are a computer hippie or you think you are. little richard stalman you dream of being the doer of your neighborhood, i will break the horns with debian, if you want to use your computer and be able to do everything you would do in debian, use ubuntu ... stop talking stupid about if in debian this or in debian which, I have used both and it is my opinion, you live on words but in the field you are prehistoric, stability ... based on using outdated programs, I can do that even in windows, there is not much merit in terms of stability if you get it at the cost to go five years behind the others, without counting the tremendous security hole that is to use any outdated browser, with only 1 version behind the others you are already naked on the Internet, catch up on versions of the applications, etc and we already talked about that super stability, prehistory is not stability, it is old, robust, made of solid stone, it is only
With Jessie 8.3 should have been more than demonstrated either using GNOME or KDE that they should be king and Ubuntu is just that the son of Debian, designed for children who miss Windows.
It is seen that you have no idea what you are talking about, in fact all the applications used in Ubuntu come directly from should, precisely from the unstable version. The approaches of both distributions are on different paths, Ubuntu unlike Debian has a simpler environment for the average user. And this does not mean that in debian you cannot do the same, if not that you require perhaps a little more knowledge. You can't talk about debian like that, especially because ubuntu (and all its shapes and colors) depends directly on everything that debian uploads to its repositories. In Ubuntu in each release there are problems and bugs, and this is normal if we take into account that it is launched with a fixed term and some things cannot be polished. I am an ubuntu user, because I started on that operating system from version 9.04, but today I installed debian on my pc (apart from having ubuntu mate on one and xubuntu 16.04 on a netbook) and much of what I learned in I have been able to apply ubuntu because I am no longer such a "novice user". The resource management and stability are very good, and it is not only because of using more stable versions of the applications, it is because of the same way things are structured in Debian. And believe me it shows a lot; I use steam, I can watch movies, surf the internet, virtualize. As for browsers as you say, I regularly use chrome, but firefox uses the lts version, which means that it will continue to be version 45, but all security improvements are present in it. And this is because this version is more focused on business environments, where certain applications or services are used where if the browser version changes, it may have certain unwanted consequences. If you want more updated versions in debian you can use the "unstable" repositories and I put it in quotes because they have already gone through a trial period, really the unstable versions for debian are the experimental ones. Debian is the mother distribution of many others, and as I have always said in tastes, genres are broken, if Ubuntu is the best for well, I think both are great, but it depends on what you use and above all, how much install the operating system. Greetings.
I like both. I use both. I have both installed on different partitions. I use the one that seems to me according to the mood I have. I can't deny that Debian is more agile and stable. But Ubuntu also has its things, especially more malleable.
But I still can't make up my mind.
What nonsense you blurted out ... the nonsense of the day, you have been with the same story for years, with the same excuse ... there is absolutely nothing you can do in debian and not in ubuntu, on the contrary if there is something you can do in ubuntu and not in debian ... install it and be able to navigate, for example, something as basic as surfing the Internet, for which anyone will use their computer should not be able to not without first looking for the driver and compiling it ... the graph more of the same, search and compile it, Debian's appearance is similar to a PC from the 90s .... In short, if you are a computer hippie or you think you are. little richard stalman you dream of being the doer of your neighborhood, i will break the horns with debian, if you want to use your computer and be able to do everything you would do in debian, use ubuntu ... stop talking stupid about if debian this or debian which, I have used both and it is my opinion, you live on words but on the ground you are prehistoric, stability ... based on using outdated programs, I can do that even in windows, there is not much merit in terms of stability if you get it at the cost to go five years behind the others, not counting the tremendous security hole that is to use any outdated browser, with only 1 version behind the others you are already naked on the Internet, catch up on versions of the applications, etc and we already talked about that super stability, prehistory is not stability, it is old, robust, made of solid stone, it is only
Well, with your answer you just confirmed that Ubuntu is for kids. What kind of childishness your answer. Piece of crybaby hdp
Use the non-free version of the testing / sid (unstable) branch, on the browser you go to the official page and download the deb or binary, and stop crying hdp.
Use the non-free version of the testing / sid (unstable) branch, on the browser you go to the official page and download the deb or binary, and stop crying hdp.
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What a good publication, it is true that both are very good, I have been using Ubuntu for a few months and I feel comfortable with it, and I think that what Courage has written is what has made many users not reach Linux, because all They believe that you must be the Hacker of Hackers to use a Linux distribution, and the majority of Windows users are children, and that is why we started in Linux hand in hand with Ubuntu, and Ubuntu has understood that and that is why it has greater penetration among the users. That is not why I mean that Debian is bad or that it is made for powerful super users, it can also be used by novices, but the philosophy of Ubuntu is what has made it gain more users compared to other distros.
As the article says very well, at point no. 7 »The“ Old Dogs ”prefer Debian because of the experience we have in this GNU / Linux world«. I consider myself one of them and I definitely prefer Debian (for servers and for Desktop).
But in the same way I do not discredit Ubuntu, many have exposed their reasons and they are just as valid, because they have approached free software from this distribution. In addition, I would add that if you are not from the computer science area (or if your job does not require it) you may not need to go very deep into knowing the differences, but rather how useful it is for you to use GNU / Linux (regardless of the flavor, Debian or Ubuntu).
Good post.
Well, I was on Ubuntu and it didn't crash, or it would freeze to the point that I couldn't use either the keyboard or the mouse and famously REISUB in UBUNTU 14.04 It didn't work either, I went to DEBIAN 8.2 Right now and very happy zero freezes or crashes They no longer move me from DEBIAN JESSIE.
Either of the two, according to your needs, I have around… .1997 in the linux world, I started with red hat, then I went to debian there in 1998, I have tried many versions of each distro including UBUNTU… .my conclusion is the following: Debian is and will continue to be the father of stability, performance and development… without a doubt.
Hello Isaac, your article seemed very good, clear and conscientious, it is the data that a beginner needs to choose a distro ... and I agree with you, Ubuntu is more for newbies and Debian for people with more experience.
I've been using Linux for more than 10 years, I went through many distros and “abducted” many people to the Linux world.
Definitely both Ubuntu and Debian can do the same, but it does not demand the same effort to do it in one as in the other and when you just start and they say "open a console" it is like entering a parallel dimension where EVERYTHING is unknown to you.
Today I use Debian and update my own programs by compiling the sources and it takes me minutes, it takes less time to do that through the console than from the graphical interface, but as I said I have been in this for 10 years and I have been a programmer for 22 years, but for a newbie like my girlfriend who wants to start looking at some things, opening the console is cumbersome, complex and time consuming, which I agree that Ubuntu is for newbies.
I'm just going to make a small correction regarding Steam, although Valve proposes Ubuntu as a distro, it runs perfectly on Debian, I have it installed and every Game I tested on Linux, it worked without any problem.
Back thanks for the summary, very clear and objective
After reading some comments, I am going to leave a question to all those who insult and are arrogant and offend the author of the article because he exposes reasons to use Ubuntu. If debian is "so simple to use", why can't I install the drivers for an Intel video card from the graphical installer? ...
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For those who are still thinking about it, I will give you the answer, and it is for the same reason that Ubuntu is more friendly for the novice and the end user, because as it becomes a popular distribution, many companies collaborate with Ubuntu to create simple tools at the same time. style «next, next, next» and that is what the end user needs, because not everyone is interested in knowing how to use a console, or how to compile a program or how the file system works inside and they have the Freedom to choose that and EVERYONE should respect it, because that is what GNU is about, about Freedom to choose what we want, so instead of annoying someone who tries to make a constructive contribution, dedicate yourselves to thinking if you are truly defending the freedom to choose or If only to be fighting for the sake of fighting.
And yes, Ubuntu became a very popular distribution, because when even most of the distros were doing complex installers, they chose to make a simple one, with fewer options but that could be handled with people with less knowledge and when the internet connection still It was not what it is today (read 10 years ago), they chose to send the installation CDs and DVDs for FREE anywhere in the world and that made them known, put them on the lips of many people and that gained them some popularity and they also marked a path because until before that, the installers were complex and today they are something simple that almost anyone who has ever installed a Windows can run.
And all this is told by someone who uses Debian since version 6, someone who does not use any graphical package installer but uses apt or aptitude, or who uses mc or uses vim to edit the files, someone who programs through a ssh console instead of using a graphical ide.
So I repeat, stop bothering people who are trying to make a contribution so that people can choose freely and that ultimately is what this is all about, FREEDOM.
Without further ado I say goodbye and my last words are for the author of the article, I continued like this, I continued promoting freedom.
regards
Well, I have decided on ubuntu for its flexibility…. once entered and familiarized, it would be a possible change to debian ... and indeed as trungus says ... it is everyone's choice according to their needs or tastes ...
I have tried many configurations of DEBIAN and UBUNTU. Finally, the configuration that I liked the most is to use DEBIAN in console mode as a database server which has excellent performance and ubuntu to develop applications and surf the web. For me it is an excellent combination. For the same reason that they are very compatible in the commands, there is a lot of information in the network for both distributions and therefore a topic if I cannot find it in DEBIAN I can find it in UBUNTU.
Someone who knows how to create apps can contact me please. Luismuzquiz aroba hotmail dot com
regards
Very good article. 1 year ago and something happened to me in the linux world, tired of having to crack everything in windows (shh) and the eternal crashes, and viruses… yyy…. well, it feeds me windows, I have been a technician for 10 years and about to receive me as a systems analyst. In this year that I have been on linux, I have tried many distros. Ubuntu, Debian (which I'm using exactly now with mate on the notebook, it's amazing…), Mint (I have it on my desktop), suse, manjaro, sorin, kali, puppy… and I could continue, I don't even know which I tested. The amazing thing about this world, is not which is better if one or the other, is that you can choose everything, from the graphical interface, to which software you want to install, everything ... the variety is incredible, and that is what is most astonishing. You don't have to marry either ubuntu or debian. We must find the one that is most useful to us, or the one that is most useful to us. I can not deny that for certain things I still use windows, for other Linux, and it depends on what or what you want to have use one or another distro, one or the other desktop.
What I do not understand, is that they talk about the ease of installation ... I do not think that a common user, (as I read out there, someone's girlfriend for example) can install ubuntu, debian, windows, or whatever from 0 in a pc ... if you can install ubuntu, you can install debian ... and if you can install an OS whatever it may be, it is because you have some knowledge, you are not a common user ... I tell you because I deal with common users daily, and I assure you ... they do not install nor windows on a pc ... everything has its knack ...
Anyway, I think the best distro depends on the purpose for which it is used ... because to talk about performance, we have to talk about what hard we use ... if we have an i7 with 16gb of ram ... install one or the other, both will fly, be it with kde, with gnome, or whatever ... if you have a 4gb dual core, 2 will also work for you. Right now, I have debian 8.4, in this notebook as I said, dual core with 4 gb, matte desktop , and it is consuming 700mb of ram nothing else ... Ubuntu might consume a little more, but how much? 1gb of ram? 1.5?
The thing is different, when we talk about a netbook for example, I have one, with an intel atom processor, 2gb of ram, a 7 screen ... I could say that between lubuntu and debian with LXDE, it gave me better debian performance ... (look at what I tell you … Install should on a netbook)….
Being as I told you that more than 1 year ago, I would say almost 2 that I use linux, a while ago I could not enter debian, because I had formatted a partition of the disk in windows, and when I wanted to enter debian, I got a UIID error or something like that, I really didn't know ... and searching I found the solution ... but that a common user doesn't do it ...
For tastes there are colors people! the beautiful thing is to be able to enjoy this and the free software!
Regards!
Excellent article, I have been using Ubuntu for about 10 months, and I have found it excellent, however now I will try Debian but on desktop, because in servers I consider it the best free ... I need higher performance and I only have a core i3 and 8 ram, for I fear that the best option now is Debian = (.. Grace
Debian is more pure and technical than Ubuntu, which seems like a kindergarten interface in my opinion, however comparisons are useless when Debian does not include Wi-Fi network drivers, which renders the installation unusable, as it makes it complicated. Then then if I have Ubuntu I have to opt for this, no way :-(
Use what suits you and if you don't like it, change it, it's that simple
This is because in all debian installations, it is 100% free software, in fact it is registered in the free software foundation. After the installation, you can enable the repositories for non-free software and install the linux-firmware-nonfree where it is sure what is necessary to activate said wifi. In my case with ubuntu I always have the same problem with r8169, the same that I have to compile in both ubuntu and debian. I think it's more like how willing we are to google and solve problems. Finally it serves as personal knowledge.
They already have me fed up with so much debian and ubuntu and they leave behind arch linux, anteros and open suse that currently I am staying with arch linux since it is the best above ubuntu and they should have been overrated ... try new things and I don't know what is commercial be fooled by the words of people who speak with the liver and not with the brain I recommend that you try linux distros and then judge (I recommend arch linux) now almost all people use linux that is no longer valid debian is for professionals ... that's rubbish now anyone even my grandmother uses linux.
"Fight for software freedoms" what a translation
I have tried many distros and always end up on Debian, the one that works best.
I have tried many distros and I always end up on Debian, the best.
I spend hours reading Debian vs Ubuntu forums, OpenSuse vs Fedora etc, etc. and 99 percent of what is written are topics that are repeated as if they were programmed robots. Let's see some:
1) Debian is for experts and Ubuntu is for newbies. I have desperately searched for some expert app that is on Debian and not on Ubuntu. I have not found it. There is nothing that can be done in Debian that cannot be done in the same way in Ubuntu.
2) Debian is difficult to install and it is also difficult to find proprietary drivers. It is simply false. On this website: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.5.0-live+nonfree/amd64/iso-hybrid/
we can download iso images with the proprietary drivers and software and also in live format that can be tested before installing. Debian's graphical installer is absolutely as simple as Ubuntu's.
Other things that I have observed on my computer with an Intel i-7 with liquid cooling, two SSDs and 16 gigs of RAM.
The psensor application monitors the temperature and with Ubuntu 16.04 it stays between 28 and 33 degrees. With Debian Jessie the temperature ranges from 33 to 38 degrees. I have to add that to Debian Jessie I have to change the kernel via backports for 4.6 since the official Debian website advises to use a kernel equal to or greater than 3.9 when you have SSD disks.
In short, I have the feeling that many users of some version of Linux have it as a game that consists of making everything work. They do not have it as a work tool. Linus Torvalds himself has repeatedly criticized distributions for being complicated to handle. If I may be allowed a simile, let's consider that you buy a television and the tuner is missing and out of adjustment. When you see that it does not work, you complain and they tell you that this is a television for experts, you have to adjust it yourself and search the stores for the missing tuner and install it yourself. The classification, place of distro for experts and distro for novices, should be this: Distributions for those who want the computer as a work tool, and distributions for those who want to play to get the graphics card to work, the printer and to play videos without problems and in this way, when they get it they can jump for joy saying: Eureka !!! I am already an expert !!!
Good post friend clarify doubts, first line I decide on Ubuntu but now I'm curious to learn Debian.
probe open suse ubuntu 16.04 zorin 12.01 mint 18.1 which did not convince me, I could never install ubuntu studio 16.04 the installation hung, probe Debian 8.7.1 with which I had no problems, so I hope to finally abandon windows 10 with which I could never burn the linux ISO always at the time of transferring it to the dvd marked error, so I had to burn them with windows vista
Very good information I have tried fedora, Suse, Ubuntu, Ubuntu Mate, red had, archi linux and personally the one that worked best for me is they should with the previous ones, I was very happy with the computer and it froze with should it works perfectly
Boys and girls:
I have read all the criticisms of both systems and you know what I think… .thanks to debian and ubuntu I left windows and it has been a long time since I stopped wasting time putting patches and looking for passwords and feeling like a perfect thief or corrupt. My conscience is now clear thanks to guys like you who magnify the Linux combo.
Instead of arguing, let's improve it and make a super linux that Bill leaves him shaking (ha ha).
Out of a little humor thanks guys
I was really in doubt about which one to install and you have clarified it for me perfectly. Thanks
If you want to use Debian without complicating your life, install Point Linux with Mate desktop or XFCE, it is easy to install and use, and if you want to use Ubuntu, install Lubuntu with LXDE, it is fast, light, easy to use and with a tuning it is beautiful, greetings ...
Do you want an Easy to use debian I have to install? look for MX Linux, it is light, it has additional tools to the rustic Debian and very fast xfce desktop. They will be impressed.
Excellent article, very clear and complete. Thank you very much for this contribution.
Greetings from Medellin-Colombia XD
My story with Linux:
I played with Knoppix (based on Debian), with a LiveCD.
But, I started the Linux installation with a DVD of SuSE Linux, yes: SuSE Linux Enterprise Desktop (SLED), I loved it and loved it. When I upgraded my version of SuSE Linux Enterprise Desktop to openSUSE, I was happy. Every half year, I would format my hard drive and update EVERYTHING.
Yes, indeed: It updated EVERYTHING. I learned a lot. But, when I updated my Linux would break. A defect of Yast, compared to Synaptic, is that Yast downloads and installs "on the fly", assuming that the power does not go out, the internet does not go out etc, etc, everything pulls well, but with a lost package or dependency: PUM, openSUSE breaks.
Synaptic, download EVERYTHING before starting to install. I do NOT want to get into the * .deb vs. * .rpm
Before moving to Debian, I worked with Linux Mint (Based on Ubuntu), it marked me for good, and after happily formatting my Hard Drive every six months, I moved to Linux Mint Debian Edition. Thanks to Linux Mint, I got closer to Ubuntu and Debian. But suddenly, my work no longer allowed me time to be formatting and installing a version of GNU / Linux (I know that's the right thing to do, but I'll keep telling you Linux with forgiveness from Richard Stallman), every six months, and I needed something more stable but not so outdated.
Ubuntu LTS vs Debian Testing (quasi Rolling Release), influenced by Linux Mint.
They are NOT comparable, but in my situation I had to make a decision. Opt for Linux Mint or Ubuntu LTS, against Debian Testing (Debian stable, it was not an option and neither was Debian SID).
I no longer wanted (and do not want to), format my hard drive and install EVERYTHING, every six months. Again, I love openSUSE, but because of Yast, I prefer Debian with Synaptic (or APT).
Debian Testing has allowed me to keep my equipment up and running for almost 8 years and counting, without having to format every six months.
I didn't give Ubuntu LTS a chance (or missed its chance with me), for the same reason: I'm not going to format and install ALL my packages every two years. At the moment, Arch or a derivative: Gentoo, Sabayon, Manjaro…, are not an option: I don't have time to tune or optimize the whole team, even when they are Rolling Release. At the moment I am NOT in a condition for my Linux to break; and if so, openSUSE tumbleweed would be my first choice.
Maybe in a few years I will try, but for now, I require stability in packages and programs, updating the equipment without unnecessarily formatting the hard disk every six months or every two years or spending time to "tune" my Linux with the src. Or because it breaks due to incompatibility.
If you have free time: try, experiment, learn; Linux changes your life: deb, rpm, src are great each according to your needs.
And if you don't have free time: use Debian Testing, or a Linux Distro that is Rolling Release (so you don't have to format every medium or every two years).
If you want to use Linux without complications, there are: elementary OS, Linux Mint, Deepin, manjaro, fedora etc ...
You want to be daring: Arch or other more demanding like Slackware.
Ubuntu vs Debian: A standard tool against a professional tool. This is how I summarize it:
I am a Professional, I use Debian.
This is my experience.
When you require standard tools, I will recommend Linux Mint (Ubuntu Based) or Ubuntu. When you require professional tools, I will recommend Debian Testing.
I will recommend based on the needs of each user.
But me, I am Debian.
Greetings all.
You no longer need to format every six months to install the new version, with this command, valid for both Debian and Ubuntu, you can update the version without having to format
sudo apt dist-upgrade
then you restart and you have the new version
Anyway I have to tell you that Debian Buster stable has support until 2024
Obviously this article is written by someone who has Ubuntu.
I have used Ubuntu 14.04 server for 4 years on two servers, one for applications and the other for databases and I have not had problems at any time they work 24/7 for an annual survey of companies, however this year for November I am getting another server in the one I plan to install debian.
I was an ubuntu user, but out of curiosity I switched to debian (in the end I noticed that my computer was running a little faster in everything) so guys, if you want something that doesn't consume so many resources, then debian, apart from being very customizable, yes, you will have to manually put some drivers if required or in any case the unofficial debian)
In 2014, sick of Windows, I dabbled in Ubuntu and was fascinated. Over time, as often happens to those of us who start experimenting with GNU/Linux, I started trying one distribution, then another, then another... I went back to Ubuntu, but I could appreciate its instability, and problems with certain software packages not free. It is not what I was looking for in an operating system that fit my essence. I wanted a stable system, where I didn't have to worry about software packages. That it had everything I really needed from an operating system. And well, I had always heard good comments about Debian in this regard, especially the stability. Also when I read about the 59k or so packs it had available (back then, two years ago already), I said to myself, “wow, within these 59k packs available, there has to be everything I really need”. This also made me reflect on the needs created. Typically the creators of software and commercial operating systems tend to create needs in their users, to later make them dependent on their product, or condition them to their products. Realizing this, I decided that there were needs that I had created that I could give up, given my user profile. I did manage to give up certain needs, and the ones I didn't, I was able to satisfy in another way in Debian. This is how “the click” happened. It's been two years since this click, and since then, I've been happy with Debian ?️
Very good differentiation between these 2 distributions. Now I know that I should install Debian, because I'm an “old dog” 😂 hahahaha